"So Phil, what are you going to say to all the business owners and people who are employed by the cafes in the nongs which are supported on a weekly basis by the cycling community. look forward to the council meeting...."
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dangerous riding
Started this discussion. Last reply by Craig Blowfield Mar 28, 2010. 44 Replies 0 Likes
We are sick and tired of riders riding in the hills of the Dandenong Ranges. It is far too dangerous. Specially when you cant fit 2 cars on the road.Also why do they not let the cars pass them. there…Continue
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Stef replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Good luck with this quest of yours Phil! Just don't get to worked up about it and frustrated when nothing changes."
conor m replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Perhaps the roads were dangerous given your wifes cycling ability? Just like how some roads and conditions can be dangerous for drivers withoutout the necessary ability to negotiate them.
I think you'll find that majority of cyclist who can…"
Ritsardo replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Hey Phil when you're not so busy, come to Melbournes inner north sometime. There you'll see many kids, mums, girls, boys, oldies and anyone on bikes, all getting somewhere politely and with co-operation to and from other road users.…"
Steve Jay replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding""Last year" (actually the year before now) was quite possibly the only case of its kind in the history of Australia. Trust me, I have hunted out every source of stats I have access to. This was a freak accident caused by a group of…"
Steve Jay replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Offensive cycling will get you killed.
Defensive cycling will get you marginalised.
Assertive cycling is the way to go. Bikes may be vehicles, but they are not motor vehicles and we're likely to be run off if we ride…"
Ben Malcolm replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"What you might find is more of them being more confident and riding two abreast. (I mean, legally they can now, and their taxes payed for that road just as much as yours, and their vehicles damage the road far less, but I won't go there).
I…"
Cory replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Eeyup. That's my take on it too.
On the whole, I think the vast majority of road users (no matter what their vehicle) are well behaved.
In my experience, it's the morons we need to be rallying against, and they can be on two wheels, or…"
Peter Bullen replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"I do a lot of road riding (and more than a little driving); having left the bike paths as they were too dangerous; mostly due to dogs on long leashes.
I have observed when driving downhill on the Mt Dandenong tourist road being overtaken by a…"
Cory replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"So again - how does registration make any difference? You seem to have two different arguments - don't ride in Dandenongs, and register cycles/ists/ But you merge them into the one thing - and for the life of me I can't see a link."
phil replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Look Im a decent bloke. Im not gonna drive over people or kill them. I just want you to see the topic from a realistic non cyclist point of view.( non subjective)"
phil replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Im not saying they dont deserve to be on the roads. Im just saying think of the dangers and shoose the roads wisely. And registeration should happen. My wife gave cycling a go up here and got of the bike and got a taxi home as the roads were too…"
phil replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"Generally, a bicycle cannot be used to kill anywhere nearly as easily as a car can. Well they still can kill. (Look what happened last year at the red light). But they can be more easily killed so it`s more dangerous, and if a rider causes an…"
phil replied to phil's discussion dangerous riding"I use that that rd to get to work. And if theres nothing there, why do they cycle there?"
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- What sort of riding do you do ?
- Whatever
- Where in Melbourne or nearby do you live ?
- hills
- Now tell us about your bicycles ...
- they r old and cheap really thats all you need
- What is the best thing about riding?
- falling off
- A few words about yourself. (This bit is entirely optional!)
- I am a bloody legend and am sick of people riding bikes in the dandenongs. I understand riding but its too dangerous on these roads, where we are lucky to fit 2 cars on. I will be starting a push for a by law to be issued. I have plenty of support in this issue.
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