Cycling in Melbourne Australia
I've been building and restoring older (vintage style) bikes now for a few years, which I very much enjoy but don't profess to be an expert, and I have noticed recently a lot of vintage bikes being totally repainted/powered etc and I'm in two minds regarding this observation.
Firstly, the redone frames do look snazzy I confess but I much prefer to check out the original paint work decals etc regardless of how weathered the frame has become. I think we are a little obsessed with the 'perfect' finish to the detriment of the history and story of old bikes. Just I would start a thread to this effect to see what the general consensus is:
I've noticed the same thing.
I suppose if the stickers have some interest and are still readable it's good to leave them "original"
But if there are no stickers, or they are degraded too much, then paint them up.
My first ever "adult" bike was a respray that I did using repeated application of 1200 wet'n'dry and a Holden white by Holt's Duplicolour (spray cans) but it seriously "needed" it. (later found out it was a custom build by a long extinct Launceston bike shop/frame builder, but hey, we all make mistakes when we're young ;-)
I lean towards Will's position, the weathered look adds character. I think I'd draw the line at rust, but dings are fine :-)
Cam, I appreciate your email to me and your comments here. I understand that my comments were negative, but I have to stand by them. Selling a U/S bike is wrong; selling a dangerous bike is unconsionable - I'm talking about brake blocks missing & brake cables rusted in place; it was being ridden and the rider could easily come to serious harm. The customer was very precise in telling me where it came from; good on you getting old bikes back on the road and seeing a market niche, but I think a basic safety standard should be maintained. Not all people know exactly what standard to expect from their bike & can ride it in poor condition out of ignorance. I have no conflict of interest as I don't sell bikes, I am service only, so in fact it is in my interest for you to put these bikes on the road. I agree, the more people who ride the better, but sending them out on unroadworthy bikes will not help cycling. I urge you to adopt a basic safety policy, at least ensure that the brakes are working.
This is an interesting thread because I have accumulated some bikes that are in various states. Some I'll get 'bikeworthy' and sell but others I really couldn't be bothered and was going to sell them as they are.
They are at:
I suppose the frame is a no brainer because it would be impossible to ride, but in theory someone could try to ride the blue 3 speed which has no working brakes for a start, and I'm not sure what else because I have not had a good look at it yet.
The yellow and pink ladies bikes I should be able to get safe without too much effort.. although a bit rusty.
Food for thought, maybe I'll do the blue thing up after all - and keep it for me.
Hmm, and as for the tandem.. it's really for parts, but how can I be sure someone doesn't try to ride the thing?....
John, you sound like a nice guy and once again I appreciate your comments. Your opinion however regarding the price of a bike is only that, your opinion, it's wholly subjective. I can understand your arguments regarding the roadworthy-ness etc, but to be honest I believe it is perhaps ineffectual when in reality hundreds of used bikes are sold each day on ebay and the like without necessarily sticking to the letter of the law, infact I believe it would be difficult to actually sell used bikes if we followed the legal requirements to the letter, however I concur with your sentiment. You have had one experience connecting with my service which you have judged quite harshly and have communicated such, I however have had countless positive experiences and been referred to by many happy people. I seriously take your comments on board but in some areas beg to differ. Cheers
I've been in the retro car scene for many years and my tip is to leave the frame in it's original condition. The true "Rat Look" cars have their original paint and if possible any signage or logos. You can go completely to town on the mechanicals and upholstery but that OG patina is irreplaceable.
I bought a new road bike last year and have an old steel framed bike in the shed. It's frame is a feast of patina, some would call it crusty though! I'm looking forward to fitting new wheels and all the other bits to give it a new life, but all I'll do withthe frame is wax it to preserve the remaining paint and stop the deterioration.